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Lightroom 3 and SmugMug

SmugMug and Lightroom: Friends Forever

It’s a match made in heaven: Lightroom 3 lovers downloading the latest Adobe update will see a familiar face under Publish Services:

Don’t see it yet? Click Lightroom’s Help > Check for Updates... to get the latest version.

Now it’s easier than ever to import, organize, edit and publish your photos… all from one place. Got questions? We’ve got answers.

If you’re a Lightroom buff looking for a place to park your pics, you’re in luck. Set up your SmugMug account right through Lightroom’s Publishing Manager, and we’ll hook you up with a sweet trial account. It’s free for 14 days… and you automatically get 20% off your first year.

As always, let us know what you think. We’ve got our eyes and ears on this Dgrin thread, so don’t be shy.

Enjoy!

‘Til next time,

The SmugMug Family

  1. September 1, 2010 at 3:44 pm | #1

    Thank you so much! Now, I hope the uploads don’t fail like Freidl’s plugin!

    • September 1, 2010 at 5:00 pm | #2

      I’ve never had a problem with Freidl’s plugin (aside from a multiple smugmug account issue). And doesn’t he consult for Adobe? I wonder if he had any hand in these plugins.

      • David Parry
        September 1, 2010 at 5:21 pm | #3

        No, it was written in-house at SmugMug…by me :)

    • September 1, 2010 at 5:57 pm | #4

      I can’t say that I ever had any problems either and when a bug came about, he worked diligently to figure it out and get it fixed. Nothing against the new plug in just hate to see any attacks on Mr. Freidl’s work since I’ve been using his plug-ins for SmugMug, FaceBook and Flickr without any issues.

    • September 2, 2010 at 10:44 am | #5

      Can’t agree with that statement at all…

      I’ve been using Jeffrey’s plugins (SmugMug, Flickr, and Facebook) for a couple of years and they’ve been solid and dependable throughout.

      So, lets not go round slamming other people’s good, honest work.

      Gordon.

      • jg2foto
        January 10, 2011 at 8:45 pm | #6

        Love Jeffrey’s plugins!

    • Maiaibing
      September 2, 2010 at 8:00 pm | #7

      Have been very happy with Freidl’s plug-in and his efforts to address any problems. So far I have actually been far less impressed with Smugmug’s upload programmes – especially the fact that they do not have a ftp solution that lets Smugmug pick up a lost or broken connection which would be a boon with video upload.

      Still, happy to see it built into LR3.2 which I use.

      • David
        September 3, 2010 at 6:15 am | #8

        I asked if they would do FTP for just this reason and was given the technically clueless reply by Smugmug: ‘no, because ftp software is insecure’.

    • gary
      September 5, 2010 at 9:00 pm | #9

      My Freidl plugin disappeared. What a headache.

      • gary
        September 5, 2010 at 10:21 pm | #10

        Just installed the smugmug plug in and it works fine. Hip hip hooray.

    • September 23, 2010 at 10:48 pm | #11

      Never had any issues with Jeffrey’s plugins at all, and have been using them for years.

      One suspects user-error.

  2. September 1, 2010 at 4:24 pm | #12

    Guess I’d better upgrade to version 3!

    • Jeff House
      September 1, 2010 at 6:16 pm | #13

      yup :)

  3. September 1, 2010 at 5:03 pm | #14

    its a shame the Lightroom discount is only available through the North American store though.

    • michael
      September 2, 2010 at 2:17 pm | #15

      I have to agree on that, it’s a shame Smugmug could only strike a deal with Adobe at a bigger level (eg international). Smugmug has an international subscribed base, it’s a shame such great deals are only offered to US customers :(

  4. September 1, 2010 at 5:04 pm | #16

    Does this replace jfri’s plugin? (that I just donated $20 to…)

    • September 1, 2010 at 5:17 pm | #17

      Hi Sean, it is completely different (and $0) than Jeffrey’s plugin. Give it a try :D

      • September 1, 2010 at 10:06 pm | #18

        Just updated to 3.2 (non RC) and sync’d my SM hierarchy. Great, it’s all there, but with all of the galleries set to zero photos, how do I do a sync to show the photos from my LR catalog that are actually in their respective SM gallery? Is there a manual for this publish tool?

  5. September 1, 2010 at 5:22 pm | #19

    Well I’ve tried this a few times now and it fails after the first file has been uploaded. It says it has failed completely but the first file can be found where it was supposed to go. So it is only good for one file at a time and can’t be left to upload by itself. Boo. It does this everytime I try. Maybe something to do with my ISP. Time Warner’s Roadrunner broadband has really shitty upload speeds!

  6. September 1, 2010 at 5:45 pm | #20

    Well, I have been using Jeff’s plugin on trial with great success. I think he deserves to be paid for his efforts and I plan to do that. I don’t see anything compelling about the smugmug version and I worry that pulling the rug out from under developers, who commit themselves to engineering creative solutions for us users, will ultimately hurt us all in the long run.

    • September 15, 2010 at 6:45 am | #21

      I wonder if the Smug folks talked with Jeffrey about this before they did it.

  7. September 1, 2010 at 5:50 pm | #22

    Hmm… just read what I wrote and want to state that when I say “compelling” I mean in a way that it is different or adds more value to what I’m already using. So no offense to David’s work in other words.

    • David Parry
      September 1, 2010 at 6:27 pm | #23

      G’day Bill, no offense taken, everyone’s workflow is different. As for us developing the plugin, it’s as much a brand awareness/marketing thing as anything else…and Adobe would only include it if we wrote/supported it in-house.

  8. September 1, 2010 at 6:36 pm | #24

    Any way you can make it so that it remembers the settings you set when creating a gallery? I like to set mine to allow comments and sort by date taken, which are not the default. Every time I create a gallery I have to reclick those.
    A sweet small bonus would be that the text entry field for gallery name is active when the window pops up so I can just start typing instead of clicking on the default name of “gallery” and making my own, since everyone is going to change that anyway makes sense that it would be active.

    • December 5, 2010 at 4:04 am | #25

      I’d also like to see the ability to save default settings for galleries – it’s a real pain having to go through and change options each time you create a new gallery.
      That said, the SmugMug plug-in is a great v1.0 product :o )

  9. Bob
    September 1, 2010 at 6:43 pm | #26

    Where is the lr_plugin folder located to add this plug-in?

    The JF folders are all I see.

  10. September 1, 2010 at 7:00 pm | #28

    OK here is the error message that I get when Lightroom fails to upload (publish) properly.

    Can’t Update This Collection
    An internal error has occured: html passed to
    JSON:decode(): 504 Gateway
    Time-out
    The server didn’t respond in time.

    I frequently have issues with every method I use to upload pictures to each and every site I use. Wish I could get to the bottom of this it’s very frustrating and I’m not blaming your work Andy and David!

    I can download tons of stuff very quickly with no issues at all. All other internet functions are great but uploading is a nightmare and I really need it to work.

    • David Parry
      September 1, 2010 at 7:51 pm | #29

      Chris,

      Can you please email the help desk and we’ll see what we can do to get you sorted out ?

      Cheers,

      David

    • Mike B
      September 17, 2010 at 10:15 pm | #30

      I’m having the same issue. I have the most recent updates (as of 9/18/10) and am getting this same error when uploading a batch of pictures to my pro account. My error message states the exact same thing as reported above.

  11. Sean Farrell
    September 1, 2010 at 7:16 pm | #31

    Very, very nice.

    Thank you!

    I saw it there after updating LR yesterday but didn’t get around to playing with it until today. Ironically I had been researching Mr. Freidl’s plug-in that accomplishes the same thing 2 days ago and would have downloaded this it this week but the SmugMug plugin just happened along.

    For those of you who have already supported Jeffrey, don’t sweat it, from what I’ve read he makes wonderful plugins that work, and I researched a lot — he deserves to be paid for his work. I believe in you get what you pay for, and I was prepared to pay for Jeffrey’s plug-in, but the SmugMug plugin arrived just before I did so.

    No, I’m not cheap, I won’t hesitate to pay for any of Jeffrey’s products that I find useful in the future. That being said, I choose to pay for SmugMug (two accounts!) because I feel they too provide a great service.

    So, in summary, check out both plugins (you get the SmugMug automatically on upgrade to LR 3.2, you can download Jeffrey’s and try it free for 6 weeks) and decide for yourself where the value is.

    As David Perry said earlier, SmugMug won’t be offended one bit if anyone chooses to go with Jeffrey’s plugin, they created their own version to increase their brand awareness, something that should benefit all current SmugMug users.

  12. David Parry
    September 1, 2010 at 11:29 pm | #32

    @sean unfortunately, we were under a very tight deadline with Adobe and image syncing didn’t make the release. I’m actively working on it at the moment. I have a proof of concept working, but it may be a few weeks before something is available publicly.

    • Rob
      September 2, 2010 at 2:01 am | #33

      Great plugin. Seems to work very smoothly.

      Image syncing is really important to me. To be clear it is not a one time effort for me. I love the flexibility of SmugMug allowing me to upload photos on the go from my iPhone or directly to a web browser while I am on the road. I always then later load those photos into Ligthtroom to manage going forward. Having image syncing to connect those photos that come in via SmugShot or the web interface is priceless for me.

      Will future updates to the plugin be available out of band from Lightroom releases??? This would be great as waiting for the next Lightroom release does not seem necessary given their plug-in architecture.

      • David Parry
        September 2, 2010 at 2:52 am | #34

        We’d like to provide out of band updates, but that’s contingent on a number of factors that have yet to be discussed.

        My focus is on developing functionality that I know users want…I’ll leave all the other decisions for management to wrangle :)

    • September 14, 2010 at 10:02 pm | #35

      @David Based on what I know about my Smugmug upload history, I probably uploaded images with stripped exif data. This means LightroomSmugmug bi-directional sync would only have keywords/filename to go off of to match up with images in the Lr catalog… well, unless the sync init made local, low-res proxies that could be matched to the low-res images grabbed from SMug so that Lr could dive into the actual pixel data and do feature matching (least mean square search??)

      I’m trying to reorganize my workflow so that if this bi-directional sync goes live, my catalog and SM galleries will be ready for it. Currently, I don’t include job info in my filenames… I could go and start captioning and keywording my galleries… any help to prepare me, even if you can’t commit to it, would help. I’m very interested in this working.

      • September 16, 2010 at 5:22 pm | #36

        After more thought, apply a hash function to the luminescence histograms generated from the SM and Lr low-res proxies and do a sorted match?

  13. Bob
    September 2, 2010 at 12:02 am | #37

    Halleluia!!!

  14. Jase
    September 2, 2010 at 12:24 am | #38

    Nice! I’m going to play around with this – I’ve also been using JF’s plugin – but I like this heirarchy list from smugmug :)

    • Renaud
      September 2, 2010 at 12:26 pm | #39

      I do too..

  15. Paul
    September 2, 2010 at 1:16 am | #40

    What a shame that your plug in does not allow a choice of title field in LR to be used instead of the caption field like all the other LR publish services. This just makes it to much hard work to re-caption everything if you want your titles to show in SmugMugs image caption field

    • Renaud
      September 2, 2010 at 12:25 pm | #41

      Agree..

    • Wayne
      February 10, 2011 at 6:21 pm | #42

      Cannot agree more on this …

  16. stef
    September 2, 2010 at 1:29 am | #43

    I’m trying out the trial now, but I didn’t get it through Lightroom. I associated that account with my copy of LR3.2. Will I still get a discount if I subscribe? Or do I need to do the annoying click-through and create a new account?

  17. September 2, 2010 at 1:48 am | #44

    When do we get seamless integration for Aperture?? Please do this next, the current plugs are just clunky add ons

  18. September 2, 2010 at 3:07 am | #47

    Please advise what is the yearly cost for this service and how do I go about subscribing to it?

    Skukphotography.com

    Thank you

  19. September 2, 2010 at 3:55 am | #49

    Great! Does anybody know whether the integrated SM publish will support Jeff’s GPS injector?

    Thanks

    • September 2, 2010 at 11:12 pm | #50

      Yes it does. All publish services work the same way. If you right click on the publish service and choose ‘Edit Settings…’ you’ll be able to enable/disable various post processing actions in the lower left corner of the dialog. Once you enable the GPS injector there, it’s export configuration box will appear in the accordian stack on the right and it will function just like normal exports.

  20. September 2, 2010 at 5:07 am | #51

    What a nice surprise to log in and see this. Thank you smugmug! Lightroom/Smugmug is the perfect pair! I’ve been using Jeffrey’s plugin in with lightroom2 but didn’t have as much luck with it in LR3. Can’t wait to use it for my upcoming shoot.

  21. September 2, 2010 at 5:22 am | #52

    And yesterday I just paid for the Friedl LR3 update minutes before seeing that you are now integrated with LR3.2…. ah well.. this will hopefully be more reliable…

  22. Chris
    September 2, 2010 at 6:09 am | #53

    Smugmug keeps getting better and better and better. First you team up with Moo.com (my favorite place for business cards) and now Lightroom. Keep up the great work!!!

  23. September 2, 2010 at 6:22 am | #54

    great way to start the day–seeing an announcement that might simplify work-flow–definitely have to take a loo–thanks for sharing–might have overlooked it

  24. September 2, 2010 at 6:40 am | #55

    Wow.. too cool! Not sure how much I will use it as I love the Send to Smugmug app. However it could be handy for some smaller galleries. Thanks Smugmug! I love extra options, especially built into my favorite photo application, Lightroom 3.

  25. Barbara
    September 2, 2010 at 10:16 am | #56

    Very nice! How does this compare to the other plugin? Is it faster, does it have as many options (which folder, privacy, etc.)? Can we get a screen shot of that too?

    • Barbara
      September 2, 2010 at 10:18 am | #57

      Nevermind….I see there are screen shots within the link. Thanks guys!

  26. September 2, 2010 at 10:43 am | #58

    Dang, I just paid for Friedl’s upgrade. Well the guy certainly has helped link my LR to Smugmug for easy uploading for over a year now, so I’ll think of it as a thank you gift. Cheers Smugmug for making this new export feature happen!

    • September 2, 2010 at 10:47 am | #59

      Agreed. Friedl’s SM plugin has been solid for my business… probably have uploaded 100k+ images without issue with it. Not to say it errors out from time to time, but it’s rare in my experience. Pretty solid work, he does.

  27. Jaap
    September 2, 2010 at 11:19 am | #60

    This plugin doesn’t work for me. Lightroom does decent output sharpening but it is omitted in the SM plugin as opposed to Friedl’s plugin. The same goes for converting to sRGB, not there.
    What were you thinking (Ok its free, but why cripple it)

    • Sean Farrell
      September 2, 2010 at 11:47 am | #61

      All of those settings and options (output sharpening, sRGB etc) are in there, you just need to read the instructions on the SM website.

      • Jaap
        September 2, 2010 at 12:26 pm | #62

        Hi Sean,

        Sorry, maybe it is just me but I can’t find any instructions specifically on sharpening and converting to colorspace, could you please provide a link. Smugmug’s own sharpening should not be used here because Lightroom sharpening is a 2 tier process with special algorithms (capture sharpening for accutance and output sharpening for effect). Smugmug sharpening is like Unsharp Mask, this is not what you want when you use the Lightroom sharpening routine.
        Again, maybe it is just me. Hope you can help me here.

    • David Parry
      September 2, 2010 at 3:13 pm | #63

      Hey Jaap,

      We omitted the ColorSpace setting from the UI and default it to sRGB. SmugMug converts all images to sRGB, so it seemed silly to give users the option to select something else, considering that converting from another colorspace to sRGB adds additional processing time on our end.

      As for output sharpening, the decision was made to remove it since we sharpen the images on our end when we upload…but if users want output sharpening we can add it back for the next release.

      • Jaap
        September 2, 2010 at 10:32 pm | #64

        Hi David,

        Thank you for your answer. I would very much like to have the option to do output sharpening in Lightroom (so in the plug in), since it is designed to work in combination with capture sharpening in Lightroom Develop. I suppose that colorspace conversion in SM is the same as in Lightroom so that wouldn’t be a problem then.
        Well here you are, my vote for output sharpening in the plugin please (Flickr plugin has it).
        Thanks in advance.
        Jaap

  28. September 2, 2010 at 11:47 am | #65

    Great news about the Adobe LR plugin. I will check it out.

    I have been using Jeffrey Freidl’s plugins for a few years. No complaints. I recently added Jeffrey’s Facebook plugin too.

  29. Renaud
    September 2, 2010 at 12:14 pm | #66

    mmmm.. did I miss something ? I don’t see it in the ‘export to’ options, but it’s listed in the export modules list….

  30. Renaud
    September 2, 2010 at 12:17 pm | #67

    Sorry, I found it !

  31. Renaud
    September 2, 2010 at 12:27 pm | #68

    Sean :
    Just updated to 3.2 (non RC) and sync’d my SM hierarchy. Great, it’s all there, but with all of the galleries set to zero photos, how do I do a sync to show the photos from my LR catalog that are actually in their respective SM gallery? Is there a manual for this publish tool?

    • Renaud
      September 2, 2010 at 12:28 pm | #69

      Same question..

  32. Sean Farrell
    September 2, 2010 at 1:13 pm | #70

    Jaap: I’m running around between appointments right now, will have to find it on my home computer when I’m back there tonight, maybe someone else can point you there before I do.

    Meantime, just know that this plugin has more or less the same interface and options when you publish with it as when export jpeg etc. to your hard drive or DVD — you get the same sharpen for screen vs. sharpen for print options, color space etc — it’s just that finding those settings for publish isn’t as obvious as it is for export.

    If that’s not the info or features you’re looking for I may not be any help to you, after all I may be the one who is misunderstanding you, not vice versa!

    Rgds, Sean F

    • Jaap
      September 2, 2010 at 10:40 pm | #71

      Hi Sean,

      Well the output sharpening dialog is in the Flickr plugin as well as in other plugins, so it should not be difficult to put it into the SM plugin. And to fit my workflow the SM plugin should have controls like the HDD publish service. I would very much prefer to have output sharpening in the plugin rather than having an unsharp mask throug SM.
      Thank you for looking and taking the effort.

      Best regards from The Netherlands,

      Jaap

      • David Parry
        September 3, 2010 at 12:04 am | #72

        Hi Jaap,

        Firstly, for clarification Sean doesn’t work for SmugMug.

        And I just wanted to point out, that regardless of whether output sharpening is available through the plugin…images uploaded to SmugMug are always sharpened.

  33. Kenny D Photography
    September 2, 2010 at 1:35 pm | #73

    I’m using the smugmug plug-in at the moment. Seems to be missing the ability to set the dpi I upload, or I managed to overlook it. As a result, I think the files being uploaded are larger than I intended.

    • Michael Keith
      September 17, 2010 at 6:46 pm | #74

      I’m wondering the same thing. Is there a way to control the DPI when using the smugmug publish service?

  34. September 2, 2010 at 2:52 pm | #75

    Terrific! :-p I own Mac and just bought Aperature 3, only to find no direct drag-and-drop feature, unlike iPhoto. Anyone know how to export images direct from Aperature 3? A Support Hero suggested using e-mail, which I consider a bad joke at best.

    Thanks, Tom Black

  35. Wayne
    September 2, 2010 at 4:51 pm | #76

    Now I have to get this upgrade (LR). I am looking forward to trying it and the new SmugMug publishing process.

  36. September 2, 2010 at 8:37 pm | #77

    Love the integration with LR 3.2…. this will make managing my shoots and sales much easier.

    Best current feature… Parallel upload to multiple galleries!

    No more exporting and setting up three different browser (ie. Safari, Firefox, Chrome, etc) sessions in order to get to bed!

    I hope you will be able to implement new SM features in the plugin in a timely manner. One thing that would be GREAT is reverse sync (really matching) of already published content with LR Catalog files. I believe others are asking for the same thing in different words.

    Another nice feature would be support for image replacement. I use this to either get a version up quickly over my little pipe so viewing can start with higher res versions uploaded later as needed (for quality or purchase). The publish module probably supports already (by ‘changing’ the resize setting) but it would be ‘nice’ to see this implemented in a more user friendly and integrated manner for Pro accounts especially.

    Finally, it would be fantastic if images that had been purchased could be tagged in some way. That way during sync the tag could be used to modify the metadata of the local copies in some way so a ‘smart gallery’ might be created with purchased images.

    Thanks for the nice work!

  37. Jaap
    September 3, 2010 at 7:13 am | #78

    David Parry :Hi Jaap,
    Firstly, for clarification Sean doesn’t work for SmugMug.
    And I just wanted to point out, that regardless of whether output sharpening is available through the plugin…images uploaded to SmugMug are always sharpened.

    David,

    Thank you for your answer. You got me puzzled here. I am on SM Pro and I set sharpening amount for galleries to 0,00 to avoid sharpening on top of my Lightroom sharpening (through JF’s plugin). You mean there is always sharpening applied despite setting it to zero through the control panel?

    Jaap

    • Sean Farrell
      September 3, 2010 at 7:22 am | #79

      Jaap and David, there was another “Sean” on this thread as well but I suspect David was referring to me — apologies I never meant to sound as though I was representing SM at all, was just trying to help. It never occured to me that I would sound like I worked for SM! So sorry again.

      Secondly, I could swear I set output sharpening on the publish feature of SM in LR two days ago — and that I saw color space options there as well. That said, it’s quite likely fatigue was messing with my memory but I’m not entirely sure. As I’ve not been back to my home office for some time (busy doing my “real” job) I haven’t been able to go back onto my Mac and refresh my memory.

      For what it’s worth I’d like to put my vote in to bring back the output sharpening (that is apparently now gone!). My previous workflow had me exporting from LR to my HD and then uploading to SM (usually via Macdaddy), that meant sharpening on export from LR for screen and then letting SM do what it does with your algorithms. I’d like to keep that if possible, allows me to skip and extra step and also adding more data to my HDs.

      Rgds, Sean F

  38. September 3, 2010 at 8:17 am | #80

    Thank you, thank you – You Smuggies are the absolute BEST…

  39. September 3, 2010 at 8:35 am | #81

    I’ve been using Lightroom for a couple of years and love the convenience of just sending photos through Jeffrey Friedel’s program. I upgraded to Lightroom 3 and donated just last week.

    I’ll have to try this and see which is easier!

    Love it! If anyone wants a simple fast and less time consuming way to upload to their smugmug account – this is fantastic!

  40. September 3, 2010 at 10:51 am | #82

    Love having the feature available!
    I always appreciated Friedel’s plugin and was gad to have it – Thank you Jeff.
    I did have problems with it working on 3.0 so this may solve my problems.

  41. September 3, 2010 at 12:37 pm | #83

    David Parry :
    No, it was written in-house at SmugMug…by me

    David, can you make this Publish feature useful, please? Email me at kendrick (at) dviantimage.com and I’ll explain why this thing just doesn’t work. You’re close! But for pros, the export plugin is still the only way (and with LR3 and Smugmug, the uploads fail!).

    • September 3, 2010 at 1:05 pm | #84

      Agreed. The numbers next to the heirachy are meaningless when there are two ways to add, modify and delete photos. It sounds like they are actively trying to set up a bidirectional sync and that would be the winning ticket. I’d like to see a SM->LR preference setting that would map “hidden” photos to “reject” flags.. or color labels. I’ve asked LR for catalog/xmp notes attached to images such as development notes or customer notes. I’d imagine those would be great to sync if/when available. I would REALLY REALLY like queued publishing. This means, I sit down and crank out 1000 photos for a job, associate them with the smugmug gallery and set up a time for it to publish, say 2:00 am. Then, I could go onto the next 1000-image job WITHOUT my cpus being tied up rendering for the upload. THAT would be useful.

  42. September 3, 2010 at 12:39 pm | #85

    Seems like “modified photos to re-publish” isn’t quite working. It keeps timing out. So far, though, I have sent over about 400 photos from LR->SM with this tool.

  43. Mat Johnston
    September 4, 2010 at 7:15 am | #86

    Hi, thanks for developing this plugin. I have a few questions that I haven’t been able to answer using help or browsing the web.

    1. If I change metadata, but not development settings, is the whole image re-rendered and uploaded? Ideally, of course, just the metadata updates would be transmitted.

    2. My multi-word keywords all appear to be broken up into single word keywords on the Smugmug side. Is there any way to keep the keywords ‘whole’ or is this just a bug?

    Thanks!

    • S
      July 17, 2011 at 3:00 am | #87

      1. As you probably read, the whole image is uploaded again. Yeah…lame.
      2. I noticed this too. To get around it, either put quotes around your tag(eg. “your tag” – this sucks cause you see this in Lightroom too making it a little harder to read) or alternatively, you add two keywords to a photo so that a comma separates the two and then smugmug will keep the tag together (eg. your tag, another tag). This also sucks because you’d have to go back to your first question and upload the photo again.

      • July 18, 2011 at 11:25 am | #88

        Ummmmm….Metadata is embedded in the file itself, it’s not seperate data. That’s why you have to upload to the whole image again.

  44. September 5, 2010 at 6:09 pm | #89

    I like LightRoom 3 but will continue using Jeffrey Friedel’s plug-in because it allows additional captioning options — the one I use that SmugMug doesn’t offer is to combine the image name with the caption on the caption line. While you can do this in SugMug IF there is NO caption, once you add a caption the image number is lost (except to those who know to look for it in the information window).

  45. September 6, 2010 at 4:53 am | #90

    Dave, I love the integration with Lightroom that you built. It’s much easier to add pictures to Smugmug through Lightroom now. However I keep getting “incomplete file(s) received” after almost every time I click Publish. Sometimes it’s all but one file and sometimes its multiple files. It’s always at least one file that doesn’t work though. Sometimes if I click Publish a few times in finally works. Any advice? Are others having this problem?

    • September 6, 2010 at 7:32 am | #91

      I get the same timeouts. If you keep pushing it, the upload will ultimately complete. This has only been happening for my republished photos.

  46. Barry
    September 7, 2010 at 4:21 pm | #92

    Not working. LR says the plugin is loaded & enabled, but no sign of it anywhere in LR. Upload to SM works pretty seamlessly from Elements – for some reason there seems to be lots of problems with it here. I’ll keep trying, but I have little patience for software that doesn’t work as advertised these days. It shouldn’t be this hard…

  47. September 14, 2010 at 7:56 pm | #93

    Love this plugin. One issue though, when I upload using the plugin, the photos lose all the exif information. Any idea why that is happening and how to fix?

  48. September 15, 2010 at 3:41 pm | #94

    Nice plugin, in theory. Unfortunately, it errors out in one way or another on 90% of the file upload attempts. Typically, I see “Upload timed out.”

  49. September 17, 2010 at 2:13 pm | #95

    Oh don’t do this to me! I have just payed power user registration fee and then came to this page and found out that I would have got 20% off just by doing it from Lightroom. Grrrrr!

  50. matt
    September 18, 2010 at 7:58 pm | #96

    Where the Hells the link? I hate this shit

  51. September 19, 2010 at 3:01 pm | #97

    Jaap :
    Hi David,
    Thank you for your answer. I would very much like to have the option to do output sharpening in Lightroom (so in the plug in), since it is designed to work in combination with capture sharpening in Lightroom Develop. I suppose that colorspace conversion in SM is the same as in Lightroom so that wouldn’t be a problem then.
    Well here you are, my vote for output sharpening in the plugin please (Flickr plugin has it).
    Thanks in advance.
    Jaap

    +1 for Output sharpening. I do not believe Smugmug’s sharpening is a replacement for LR’s paper-specific output sharpening (Glossy/Matte low/medium/high etc).

    Please implement. Otherwise great job!

  52. DrPete
    September 26, 2010 at 4:19 pm | #98

    I love the integration, but I can’t figure out how to preserve EXIF data when I upload. Is there a way to do this?

  53. October 7, 2010 at 12:05 am | #99

    Well it certainly works as a marketing tool – that’s how I found the impressive SmugMug!

  54. Robert Bertsch
    October 31, 2010 at 6:34 pm | #100

    I’m new to Lightroom. I purchased Lightroom specifically for the option to publish straight to SmugMug. Now I receive the following error on almost every collection I attempt to upload to.

    “Can’t Upload this Collection. An internal error has occurred: ?:0: attempt to index field ‘_dateChanges’ (a nil value).”

    Anyone know how to resolve this. This error is preventing me from doing any uploads. Also, I am creating my galleries as Smart Galleries within Lightroom.

  55. NIsse
    November 1, 2010 at 1:10 pm | #101

    How to keep custom image order in when uploading to Smugmug.
    What do I do wrong?
    I have put the images in custom order in the smugmug collection. The images appear in another order in smugmug after uploading them with “none” order option.

  56. November 4, 2010 at 2:24 pm | #102

    Ok, I’ve been using the SmugMug/Lightroom publish service for a few months to stream well over 10k images to SmugMug. There are many aspects I love, but there are a few detrimental omissions preventing it from being a professional-level tool. I asked Hogarty during a presentation about the image sync and he seemed to imply that the goal was a one-way ‘publish’ but then went on to show how comments are retrieved from SM back to LR. I hope that the goal is to keep LR and SM in perfect sync. Here’s some sticky points:

    1) A keyword update in Lr requires a full reupload of the photo. The JF plugin uses the SM API to just update the keywords. When 1000 images have a metadata change, that’s a huge waste. Adding keywords in SM isn’t sync’d to LR.

    2) Just like 2), adding photos via the SM website uploader aren’t reflected in LR nor are any deletions. The publish/delete has to originate from within LR.

    3) LIke I’ve mentioned in posts above, I have hundreds of galleries on SmugMug that were processed and uploaded from LR using the JF plugin. This means the photos are in the LR catalog, but the publish service doesn’t currently match them up to their SM online counterparts so I see a big, fat goose egg next to the gallery entry in the publish service area.

    I fully appreciate the work done in this area and understand it’s a pretty big task.

  57. Mallory
    November 18, 2010 at 8:19 am | #103

    I’m new to both lightroom and smugmug this week. I have been using picasa and picasa web. Thank you all for entertaining what might be a very novice set of questions.

    My main question is this: When I’m in the LR Library, is there anyway to select multiple files (or a whole collection, etc.) and move it into the publish gallery at once? Or do I have to drag and drop one by one.

    Here’s my “workflow” so to speak. I import all of my files from camera. I work through them flagging the ones I want to “keep.” I then “develop” each of those images. I end up then with some number (20, 50, 100) that I want to keep and share as an albumn. Can’t I somehow select them all at once and say “publish” . . .

    • November 18, 2010 at 8:27 am | #104

      Click on your first one, hold down the shift key, click on the last shot. Or, CTRL+A/CMD+A, or hold the CMD/CTRL button and click on the individual photos.

  58. November 20, 2010 at 5:23 am | #105

    Is anyone else getting this message when attempting to apply a quick setting to a new gallery?

    bad argument #1 to ‘pairs’ (table expected, got nil)

    What does it mean, and how is it fixed?

    I purchased smugmug four days ago, and have some 35 client galleries to upload, I don’t want to have to plug in each setting every time.

    Thanks for taking the time to respond.
    Cheers!
    -Steve

  59. November 21, 2010 at 6:40 am | #106

    I just upgraded to LR 3 (have been a longtime user of LR 2 & Smugmug). Similar complaint to other users. I’ve uploaded to Smugmug through the JF plugin. I know all that metadata is in the LR catalog…would be great if LR would recognize these previous uploads and add it to the publish groups automatically.

    I upload to both Smugmug and Flickr through LR. In both cases, any metadata update requires the whole picture to be uploaded again. Not good.

    With Smugmug, I’ve been working on a Christmas card (a PSD document). When I edit the PSD in Photoshop, LR updates automatically and sees the changes. However, the PSD is not marked for republishing. I try to manually mark it for republishing, but when I publish, I get a Smugmug error. I have to go to Smugmug directly and delete the original upload, then LR will republish successfully.

    I’m cautiously optimistic these problems will be worked out over time. Then this will be a very nice feature. Until then, this is a bit frustrating. I want the JF plugin back!

  60. JLF
    November 28, 2010 at 7:26 pm | #107

    My question is that every time I publish i get a message saying that a few of the files were rejected and then it shows the file names, so I have to try again with those. My question is that it seems that my images uploaded to SmugMug are low-res because I’m not able to order anything bigger than a 4×6. Is there a preferences panel of some sort where I set the file size before publishing? Thanks for your help.

    • TK
      December 2, 2010 at 10:16 pm | #108

      You can edit setting for all the galleries – right click on the green smugmug icon, edit settings, and change it in the Lightroom Publish Manager.

  61. Rick
    December 20, 2010 at 12:54 pm | #109

    I have an issue where Lightroom virtually comes to a halt at times when switching galleries or even scrolling down through them. I might just be using my mouse wheel to scroll the left panel through collections for example, but when Smugmug galleries come into view on the screen the freeze occurs. It almost seems it is trying to communicate with the Smugmug server and getting errors or timeouts and not handling them well and freezing the system. Sometime it will fix itself given enough time but other times I have to terminate and restart LR. The LB window may repaint itself several times and any mouse click causes the Windows message “Not Responding” to appear in the title at the top left. LR task CPU use is 100% (actually 25% on a 4 core system) when this is occurring. I have fast internet, both up and down, so it is not that.

    I have tried refreshing the connection on the properties page with no better results. Now that I know what causes I just keep the publish services section collapsed unless I need it and everything works fine.

    When it is not acting up like that it works great and I love it. Any ideas would be appreciated.

  62. Matthew Thacker
    December 27, 2010 at 11:42 am | #110

    Just wanted to give this topic a bump and ask if there was any effort towards the features Sean Hoyt mentions in comment #98?
    “1) A keyword update in Lr requires a full reupload of the photo. The JF plugin uses the SM API to just update the keywords. When 1000 images have a metadata change, that’s a huge waste. Adding keywords in SM isn’t sync’d to LR.
    2) Just like 2), adding photos via the SM website uploader aren’t reflected in LR nor are any deletions. The publish/delete has to originate from within LR.
    3) LIke I’ve mentioned in posts above, I have hundreds of galleries on SmugMug that were processed and uploaded from LR using the JF plugin. This means the photos are in the LR catalog, but the publish service doesn’t currently match them up to their SM online counterparts so I see a big, fat goose egg next to the gallery entry in the publish service area.”

  63. Ben
    December 29, 2010 at 2:59 pm | #111

    Is the 15% off of LR3 still available. The codes don’t seem to work any more.
    Ben

  64. Gene
    December 30, 2010 at 7:34 am | #112

    When I try the discount link I get the following error – “The association name is invalid”

  65. lisa
    December 30, 2010 at 9:00 pm | #113

    a plug-in for adobe Bridge?

  66. January 4, 2011 at 2:14 pm | #114

    I have questions like some of the other recent messages: Is the 15% off of LR3 still available. The codes don’t seem to work any more. And: When I try the discount link I get the following error – “The association name is invalid” BTW, the association link that automatically appeared is: cspartners

    Please advise. Thank you!
    - Tim

  67. January 8, 2011 at 11:06 am | #115

    So, I’m just setting up my Smug Mug and Lightroom. It’s been Initialising the Synchronizing SMugMug Hierarchy window for about 20 minutes. How long is this supposed to take?

  68. February 22, 2011 at 6:48 pm | #116

    David Parry :
    Hi Jaap,
    Firstly, for clarification Sean doesn’t work for SmugMug.
    And I just wanted to point out, that regardless of whether output sharpening is available through the plugin…images uploaded to SmugMug are always sharpened.

    I thought Smugmug’s sharpening was display purposes? I can’t seem to find where I can set smugmug’s sharpening settings for prints. Anyone have any ideas? If I can set a default in SM Pro, I’m happy with that- I just thought what’s on the website now is for display only.

    Thanks!

  69. April 26, 2011 at 6:14 pm | #117

    Another issue with this SM plugin I’ve learned over the months. When you sync your heirarchy, sometimes it doesn’t see all your galleries and it takes them out of your SM hierarchy. Of course, you want the gallery there so you hit sync again, which it does eventually see all the galleries so it adds them back on. Only, it adds them and forgets all the images you put in there origninally and the image count is at zero again. It’s happened multiple times over the months I’ve used the service. Not sure what causes the first sync to omit certain galleries.

    This brings back up the notion we need a two way sync from SM to LR, not just the vice versa. The only way to prevent the above phenomenon is to save your gallery before trying to sync your hierarchy. If the issue happens, you can simply go back to your saved gallery. However, there is no automatic backup button you can use so you have to manually copy it. What a pain in the @ss!

  70. RMarch
    April 27, 2011 at 12:26 am | #118

    Any update on the progress of the 2 way sync??? Still waiting patiently for this critical piece of functionality. When the plug-in was first introduced, there was already talk of a working prototype. Now months later nothing. Is it a Lightroom release cycle issue? Technical issues? What’s the hold up?

    Thanks

  71. June 23, 2011 at 2:31 am | #119

    I am desperate I see smugsmug under publish services but all my albums are empty and how can I upload??????

  72. Lo Yuk Fai
    August 19, 2011 at 12:20 pm | #120

    Can I have individual resolution setting for different galleries…? For example, for gallery A and B, full resolution images will be uploaded, and for gallery C and D, reduced resolution images will be uploaded.

    There’s an option to configure the “largest size” option, which limits the options available on SmugMug, but it seems LR is still uploading the full resolution no matter what.

    Cheers.

    • Lo Yuk Fai
      August 19, 2011 at 1:03 pm | #121

      To answer my own question, it seems that this is currently not possible. But one can create two or more profiles in LR for this purpose.

      Got this idea after reading the thread on dgrin.

      Cheers.

  73. Al
    September 28, 2011 at 12:35 am | #122

    Is there any way to “bulk change” settings on SmugMug galleries after I published them?

    I.e., if I wanted to change e.g. the background theme for all galleries in my “Children” category, could I achieve this in some simple way from within Lightroom?

    • September 28, 2011 at 8:54 am | #123

      Hi Al,

      Yes, you can change different gallery settings from the “Edit Gallery” area, but keep in mind that it’s for one gallery at a time. It may be easier for you to go into your SmugMug account in a browser and use the “Multiple Galleries” button at the top of your gallery settings.

      Hope this helps!

      • Al
        September 28, 2011 at 9:08 am | #124

        Hi, thank you for your reply.

        Unfortunately, no, it doesn’t help. My huge problem with SmugMug is, that multiple galleries only allows to pick galleries one by one. I.e., if I wanted to change all 250 galleries within the “Children” category, it takes a loooooong time.

        Since apparently Lightroom is able to access the API of SmugMug, I was hoping that within Lightroom I might be able to right-click a SmugMug category and change my settings there….

        Any solution you might have to this?

        Thanks!

  74. October 2, 2011 at 10:13 pm | #125

    I’ve been uploading images to SmugMug from lightroom and occasionally get an error message telling me that some files had failed to upload. Many times a second attempt will work, but in one specific case I have 2/38 that won’t upload and no matter what I can’t seem to make them. Is there a log or a means to tell a user why a specific file won’t upload?

    • October 3, 2011 at 8:36 am | #126

      Hi Lonnie, shoot us an email with all the details and a link to your account. You do have an upload log in your Control Panel > Stats tab, but we can do more digging for you: help@smugmug.com

      • October 3, 2011 at 7:21 pm | #127

        Done…thanks (although a restart of LR finally cleared the issue, but I would still be interested in why it happened)

  75. October 11, 2011 at 4:41 pm | #128

    I had to reinstall, is there a way to sync back what I have on Smug-mug into Lightroom plugin, all galleries show as 0

    • Lo Yuk Fai
      October 12, 2011 at 5:15 am | #129

      I want to know too. Have two profiles setup in LR for the same SmugMug account, one for publishing reduced size photos and the other for full-size photos. And the folder structure and photo count is not always consistent between them.

    • October 12, 2011 at 8:03 am | #130

      Hi Mark, unfortunately at this time there isn’t a way to sync your SM architecture back into LR, though it’s a feature we’d like to include in a future update. If you need suggestions on how to get your workflow going please write to us at help@smugmug.com. Plenty of our heroes use and abuse Lightroom every day and we can help.

  76. Bill Brammer
    October 22, 2011 at 6:52 am | #131

    What color space is exported to SmugMug when I use this plugin? I don’t see a place to select that, as I do when I’m exporting to a harddrive.

  77. Kim
    November 22, 2011 at 6:26 pm | #133

    This plugin does not have a resolution setting for changing resolution (ppi) anyone know why? Kind of defeats the purpose for me to use it.

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